Michigan State's interim president is optimistic the university can reach a settlement with the Nassar survivors who are suing the school.
He spoke at a Detroit Free Press forum Thursday morning.
MSU interim President John Engler says he doesn't know how much a possible settlement would cost the university, but he told everyone it will be expensive.
One thing he is sure of, there will never be another scandal like the one involving Larry Nassar.
He said new protocols put in place since he arrived have nailed that door shut.
But he says the ongoing conversation about sexual violence and misconduct is not resolved yet.
Engler told the audience part of the problem is getting Americans to talk to each other without crossing lines.
Another round of lawsuit mediation talks is scheduled for later this month.
Engler says they'll focus on the cost of settling the 312 suits the university is facing.